Thanks
Also how much is Carbon Fibre frames a real concern for relability over time? I'm going to start riding some bikes at LBS and since there are so many options and so little time I want to have a fairly focused list to work off of which is why I'm asking these kinds of questions. I likely will have to do this on the weekend which means less over all time from the LBS as well I suspect. I'm even considering taking a day off of work just to test ride since it could be an all day thing