Old 09-23-13 | 07:18 AM
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dabac
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Originally Posted by eddy m
I'm sure that an all leading all trailing wheel will build up, but that doesn't prove that it is stable.
Nor does your suspicion prove that it isn't.

Originally Posted by eddy m
The question is whether the hub will twist to a position where all the leading spokes become trailing spokes, and all the trailing become leading.
And for a front, rim braked wheel, why would it?
Whichever way you try to push the hub, the spokes will still remain in tension, trying to maintain the orientation.
True, if enough spokes go slack, the wheel will collapse - as it would for any other lacing pattern.

Originally Posted by eddy m
With the small angles of a nearly radial build, that might happen pretty easily.
Can you explain how you see that happening, where would the force be coming from?

Originally Posted by eddy m
I hope your not riding that wheel in a paceline with me
Don't worry, I don't do pacelines.

So before you join a paceline, or allows someone to join yours, what do you do? Hold a 10-point safety inspection? Check the rider for sobriety and alertness?

I've never seen an accident that could be reliably attributed to the lacing pattern. I've seen chains breaking, forks breaking, tire beads breaking - but mostly I've seen concentration breaking.

Of all the things that are possible to worry about in terms of root causes for accidents in general and mechanical failures in particular, risks associated with lacing patterns are so far down the list as to be basically out of sight for me. I'd even quite happily ride alongside someone using a radial lace on what isn't a radial-approved approved hub. And those I know can spontaneously self-destruct at any given moment.
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