Originally Posted by
gaucho777
Here in the Bay Area, we are accustomed to Indian Summers.
Weather in Berkeley typically stays in the 70s through October.
"Bay Area"? The OP is in what some people call the "Bay Area." Not many, though. In any case, Indian summer is in fall when you get a stretch of warmth after you've already had a day or night below 0. It doesn't mean "extended warmth in fall."
Originally Posted by Seattle Forest
But 8C and rain is the forecast here from November until March.
The horror...I'll take southern Ontario's 1 degree and usually dry roads from December to February over rain any day. It's really weird how people in Vancouver like to taunt other Canadians in the winter because they don't get as cold as we do. As if 6 degrees and rain for eight months of the year is preferable!