Originally Posted by adrien

Hmmm.

Finished a hilly century on a lugged steel frame averaging 18.4. And I'm a clyde. Felt great. Bike is about 20 pounds.

I've ridden lots of carbon, including some high-end (S-works Roubaix and tarmac, plus a couple of Madones). Carbon feels clinical and kind of dead to me.

Oh, and I'm old-fashioned. The more modern, massive-head-tube and teeny-seat-stay bikes look very strange to me, almost like when the enterprise stretches into warp.