Yeah I'm working on him. Really want him to do it with me.. especially since he's down to only one car right now and "needs" rides to work. We live really close to eachother and I'm trying to encourage him to come with me. I'm going to try to help him fix up his old bike today (old specialized rock hopper that has to be about 20 years old). I think a new chain, new cables, and a derailer adjustment will have him back in business.