I seem to have missed this thread the first time around. Thanks for the information, I currently own three Ron Stout framesets and just finished working them over (see the Classic Rigs and Rides sticky page 49). I have seen a few others for sale, but they all have been too large for me (rule no.1: don't buy if I can't ride). The craftsmanship on my frames is far above everything else I own, with the single exception of a Andy Newlands built Strawberry. These are keepers .