I am not talking about setting a goal and having to give up only to try again another time. What I wonder about is people that seem to believe there is a specific age when we should all give up trying trying activities deemed too difficult for anyone beyond that age. Oh I know it isn't as easy to take up hiking or cycling as it might be for someone in their twenties. But It is also possible to take something up and get better at it even after 50. People in this forum are living proof that people well past retirement are can and do improve at activities they enjoy.