In the Weinnmann's defense, it WAS an old tire, a bit worn out (too much give in the bead wire)...but a BRAND new tube! Front is still holding fine...and it is another OLD tire...I just need to get a pair of Nice new gumwalls for it. (and ALWAYS torque down ITALIAN BB fixed cups...with vigor!) Two problems in one ride...well it WAS a shake down cruise, glad I wasn't 5 miles out!