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Old 10-27-13 | 10:15 AM
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tandempower
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Originally Posted by cooker
The developed world already has a lot of built infrastructure, and if the population for some reason does shift more to car free (and there is some evidence of that happening at the moment) it will probably involve adaptation of existing communities, not newly planned car-free communities. We're seeing lots of cities effectively being "retrofitted" with bikeways and better public transit, and with some reductions of car facilities or access, like the traffic restrictions in London, or revised zoning rules that optionally allow new apartment buildings to have fewer parking spots in Boston, etc.

Intercity bikeways would be nice, but I don't see that as a priority, especially in vast countries like Canada, USA, Australia etc. People who want to live car free are mostly going to want to live, work and shop all within a few miles, so within their own "node" if you will. In my case, if I want to go to Montreal, Ottawa etc, for business or even as a tourist I'll go in a few hours by train - I don't see myself riding that distance over a few days except as a holiday jaunt where the cycling itself is the holiday.

Having said that, when streetcars first became popular, they did spawn linear suburban growth out from the centre of cities, along each set of the tracks, but then when automobiles reached the masses, the space between the streetcar lines started to fill in. But bikes, like cars, and unlike streetcars, aren't limited to specific rights of way, so there is no sound reason why bike related development needs to be linear. Concentric growth would make all areas of the city easier to bike to, since a circle is the most efficient way to organize a community and keep distances down.
All good points. 'Retrofitting' is basically what you describe as having happened as motor-car use allowed in-fill of the streetcar spaces. I agree that this may happen increasingly with sprawl and that it's the most efficient means of making less-bikeable areas more bikeable. Nevertheless, I think new car-free cities and zones will also emerge in that people who can afford to do so will want to build new suburbs that are functionally car-free. The problem with that is that to the extent such suburbs are dependent on driving, trains, etc. for connections outside the suburb, they will not reduce traffic elsewhere, except insofar as people travel car-free when they arrive at their destinations.

The reason for the MUPway/turnpike idea has nothing to do with car-free development "needing" to be linear. Such MUPways could connect other concentric car-free areas. The purpose is to establish the possibility of choosing cycling as a means of long distance travel over an extended period of time. If you look at RV travel, there are numerous campground that cater to RVs with "full hookups" etc. These amenities are specially tailored to RVs in that they don't offer restroom/shower facilities typically, but do offer "hookups" and amenities such as pools, stores, etc. Without such RV campgrounds, what would RV travelers do? It would be significantly harder or even prohibitive to travel by RV. What I'm suggesting is that MUPway-turnpikes could facilitate a similar experience as RV camping for car-free living.

The really interesting thing about the prospect of MUPway-turnpike travel would be that the nodes along the route could be developed car-free so you could end up with a (linear) series or (2D) network of (concentric) car-free areas within a few days travel of each other. Over an extended period of time traveling and working within various businesses along the route, you could effectively traverse a long distance without having to deal with busy highways, airports, train stations, etc. If a significant number of people traveled in this way, those highways, airports, train stations, etc. would be much less busy when you would need to use them.

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