Originally Posted by Leisesturm

I can't tell anyone what or how to feel, but I can suggest that perhaps they are missing the point: is it better to 'feel' safer or is it better to BE safer? Try reporting for work as a highway flagger without your hi-viz and see where you get. Just because German cyclists don't wear hi-viz... I mean... they don't wear helmets either, for the most part... does that mean that these things are truly not useful, or is it that they are maybe not that useful in GERMANY, where there are stiff penalties for motorists that maul cyclists because "they didn't see them... " In the U.S. and U.K., drivers are held to much less of an account for their actions. Cyclists have fought back against the mounting CARNAGE by doing what they can, to be more visible. Is that such a bad thing? Really? Is it so bad to want to take some steps to tip the odds in your favour (sic) at night. Or even in the daylight. Being contrarian only works when there isn't anyone around as smart or smarter, who can call you on it. It also isn't cool to be contrarian when the issue is a life and death one.

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