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Old 11-03-13 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MEversbergII
I'm not disagreeing with you, but being as I am only 25 and I was bout 15 when I had these, I don't think they compare.

M.
OK, I understand where your coming from now. I just had another discussion on another forum about this. I'm 60 years old, I remember in the early 70's reading Consumer Reports and the average life expectancy of a major appliance was 23 years (my wife and I bought Maytag washer and dryer that lasted 30 years), TV's were 25 years (my in-laws had a TV that lasted about 35 years!); today Consumer Reports says the average life expectancy of a major appliance is 13 years and TV's are just 8! Our whole world has gone from durability to crap so that the manufactures and the world economy can keep spinning by taking money out of our pockets faster.

Appliances have the issue of much smaller motors to save energy and it's these smaller motors that aren't lasting, it's the reason we bought a Kirby vacuum cleaner because in a 10 year period we went through 3 vacuum cleaners, this Kirby is now 10 years old and still running strong but they use the biggest motor in the industry too. Today in order to get good long lasting appliances you have to commercial rated equipment...very few can afford that. Tools, the only good tools now are found from SnapOn, Matco, Mac, and Cornwell, but these are very expensive tools so the rest of us have to buy the crap from retail stores that are now all made in China and break like crazy. I've done, and doing, something a bit odd, I have and will slowly switch all my chrome sockets to air impact strength sockets as my chrome ones break or wear out, why? Because it will be much harder to break an impact strength socket! And since their all made in China with similar qualities I will buy them from Harbor Freight since they are the cheapest and they have lifetime no hassle or recept needed warranty.

I also keep my eyes open for tools in garage and estate sales that have been made 40 or more years ago because I know they will last. That set of 60 year old plus box wrenches I mentioned, those things weigh about twice as much as my set of Taiwan then replaced with China made metric box wrenches, and are darn close to the same thickness, which I can only conclude that the metal on the older set is denser. The 60 year old set is in great shape but the Metric set's teeth are wearing out already.
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