Great info...thanks! Will pick up the map as well, and refer to these routes. Did one yesterday- from my house in the Ken Caryl Valley, I took 470 and after missing the tunnel to Chatfield, I backtracked and found it, rode through Titan Road, Waterton Canyon road, Wadworth, Deer Creek, and back home- 38.5 miles. Was about all I could handle, but will try 50+ miles on Saturday. Still weak and did not push too hard. Took me 2.5 hrs and logged 1,600 feet of climbing. Fun ride! After I build a base, I'll add Highgrade and back through Deer Creek to this and see if I can add 20-30 miles and another 3,000 feet. Oh, I always wear a helmet...always.