View Single Post
Old 09-28-05 | 11:19 AM
  #219  
Helmet Head's Avatar
Helmet Head
Banned.
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,075
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Originally Posted by JRA
I'd like to think I have better things to do than to list all the things VC-ists have said that I disagree with. If I just replied to all the things you say on bikeforums (or in Wikipedia) that I disagree with strongly, I wouldn't have time to do anything else.
I'm not asking you to respond to everything, or even anything. I'm just asking you to stop creating VC strawmen and responding to those, and instead, do nothing, or at least respond to what VC's actually say. As an example of the kind of strawman I'm talking about, consider the last paragraph of your last post.


Originally Posted by JRA
While VC riding techniques are good, the ideology is absurd. It's built on, among other things, the quicksand of believing that there is one and only one true way to ride and that all other ways of using a bicycle are wrong. Bicyclists who ride other ways are inferior in the eyes of a VC-ist. VC is an inherently elitist ideology. And yes, part of that ideology is a belief that sidewalk bicycling is inherently wrong, the fact that "the Great One" does it sometimes notwithstanding.
Where do you get the idea that the VC ideology is built on "believing that there is one and only one way true way to ride and that all other ways of using a bicycle are wrong". I'm not going to say that there aren't any VC fanatics who might have implied that - though I don't know of any who have - but to ascribe that to all of VC ideology is absurd. If you believe that about "VC ideology", no wonder you're so angered by it. The tragedy is that it's simply not true. It's a baseless strawman that you've created. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that you really believe that's what VC ideologists like myself believe, but I can't understand why you insist on believing it.

"Bicyclists who ride other ways are inferior in the eyes of a VC-ist. VC is an inherently elitist ideology. "
False. Baseless opinion. Strawman.

"And yes, part of that ideology is a belief that sidewalk bicycling is inherently wrong, the fact that 'the Great One' does it sometimes notwithstanding."
False. Baseless opinion. Strawman.
Helmet Head is offline  
Reply