Originally Posted by jeffmc511

Have any of you considered the possibility of this attitude contributing to the poor attitude drivers have towards cyclists? I've seen cyclists get into arguments with drivers over the fact that they have every right to ride on the road, after all, "it's the law!", and then proceed to break the law by running stop signs/red lights. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen cyclists actually stop at red lights/stop signs, not counting one left hand turn on a very busy road frequented by cyclists, and I've even seen them run that one on occasion.

IMHO, along with the right to ride on the road, comes the responsibility to follow the rules of the road.

My opinion probably shouldn't count for much though, I just picked up my first bike in 15 years yesterday, and I only have, what, 3 posts...? I have more of a "driver" mindset than a cyclist one...

Originally Posted by the sci guy

i don't get why cyclists want to be recognized as legal vehicles on the road with the right to be there then ignore the traffic laws.

stop at the frickin red light.