Originally Posted by Avispa

C4life, i think Ti is to costly to work with and is not offering so much as carbon does. It might seem more problem than what the gains using it in conjunction with carbon. There had been alot more hassle and cost to supply teams racing with mixed material bikes.
Now so much is built in Asia. I guess cost had been even higher for high end bikes if they were made with both ti and carbon.

Legend bikes still holds Queen Ti as their best frame. It has a carbon seat mast. Personally, i'd rather have seen top tube and down tube in carbon that is stiffer.
Perhaps the seatmast tube in titanium. But again, there is this idea of a long ti tube that flex and crack in weld joints. A bonding would have made this easier.
Legend has also built rebadged bikes for team riders. So teams has used bikes with logos, but not really made from those companies.
Which bikes and extent, we will never now.
All those is of carbon.

The beauty of titanium and carbon together with no paint is really something. It also feels like taking a classical approach together with the custom fit.
There is just a sense i like about it. It will never be one of those leaf among the other leafs. I don't think bonding will be an issue really.
It would perhaps seem so, if a company was all new and the technique was without any years on it's neck for them.

But when they sponsor race teams running Mtb races on bikes made like this, it would simply not work if bikes did not stand the test of time.
All new and the latest, is more unsafe and there is really nothing of proof other than theoretical data.
Data is great, but usage over time is also a truth.