Stormdog, those pogies you have should be helping some. Are you using winter gloves inside them? I don't have direct experience with the brand you have, but if they function like my Bar Mitts, they cut the wind chill and allow you to use the same gloves you would normally use at a much colder temperature. In other words, if a pair of ski gloves would be okay at 35degF without Bar Mitts, they are okay at 15degF with Bar Mitts. Think of it as extending the range your normal gloves can work down another range of degrees (I'm not sure what number, but I'll throw 20 out there, for discussion). The air getting in the hole should be of minimal effect. Hopefully that is helpful. Don't give up on them, they should work well with winter gloves.