Originally Posted by knobster

Well lots do. But those companies have much larger variety of bikes than Raleigh. If you compare apples to apples, say a Sojourn to say a Trek 520, I think the Trek is a better bike. Compare a Sojourn to a Surly Long Haul Trucker and I think you got about the same bike. But those are comparable companies where Raleigh isn't the same company as Trek. Masi is a comparable company to Raleigh now and I think their line of bicycles are about the same. Not great, but not bad either. Raleigh doesn't create the bike, but mainly just the frame and sometimes the fork, it's the choice of components to keep the price of the bike competitive with the market they are after while making a decent profit for the parent company.