Wow, hahaha, what is wrong? I said I was being ignored and this is a waste of time. The above post proved my point. Sheesh.

In any case, for people who can actually focus on what the real topic was, it was presenting various cross commuters that could be suitable to those people who are considering that type of option. (My own personal preferences leaning towards bikes with cantilever brakes, drop bars, eyelets for a backrack, no carbon, no disc brakes, clearance for fenders, aluminium frames, etc.)