spndtrxi - 1m??? Does that mean 1 mile? I like to use Longview Drive for steep training too, but it's only 3/10 of a mile from Foothill to the cul-de-sac at the top. Do you know a way to go beyond the gate at the top? I've always wanted to continue past the gate. (I have a general dislike for gated communities.) Or are you riding a mountain bike and continuing onto Longview Trail.?