Looking at these hubs closer I think im looking for a single side thread for a freewheel and not a flip flop hub. I dont want the exposed threads on the opposite side of the hub. I may have to just break down and go with some Phils (my pocket book is cringing). Only ones that offer everything that im looking for that I can find so far. Paul has one but its a 135 spacing only which is too wide. Maybe ill check my frame and see if it will spread to 135. Thanks for the replies guys, if you know of any others; please let me know.