Originally Posted by
spare_wheel
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i would also add that the majority of cyclists in portland who advocate for speed reduction, road diets, and traffic calming are separated-infrastructure skeptics. the cycletrackistas in portland are simply echoing the "bikes belong/people for bikes/green lane project" focus on separation, separation, and separation. i challenge anyone to find a single example of "bikes belong/people for bikes/green lane" advocating for a lowered speed limit, traffic calming, and mixing of traffic (even though this type of infrastructure is fairly common in europe).
Man, I simply don't get this civil war. I really don't. Around here, it's all of the above, not one or the other.
Anyhow,
an example in Boston. More info on LiveableStreets.
And I'll remind you again, it really is all of the above, in building and using. At the end of a cycle track which drops to a bike lane, here's someone doing what we do around here. Driving his bike.
-mr. bill