Originally Posted by
Coachtj Cormier
That's the point I was making.The Low back muscles are not the prime focus of the exercise, they stablize the pelvis and back.
The prime focus of the exercise (when done right) is Hamstrings,and Glutes.
I didn't really get that from your earlier posts. Here's what you said:
Some good info here others not so much.
Why limit to upper body and core?
Full body work is the best route. As long as you have good form and have a good idea of what to do lift big!
Most of the time this thing wirh high reps and low weight is a waste of valuable training time and doesn't really accomplish much.
Also push up are very good when done right and most don't, they can be modified for subjects with shoulder issues. But as cyclists we should be doing more "pulling" exercises then pushing. Pushing exercises overly done promote anterior sholder rotation adding 2 "pulling " exercise for each "push" will counter act that.
Lastly a doing Deadlifts for low back is a good way to hurt your low back A very commom misconception. Deadlifts are for Hamstrings, glutes.
Train hard rest harder!
Agreed here.
Deadlifts are gonna hit your lower back and make it stronger regardless, IMO.
Only when done with poor form!
My position is that deadlifts will strengthen your lower back
*when* done with proper form, for the reasons stated earlier. Perhaps a case could be made for strengthening your lower back using some other exercises if lower back strength is lacking but one has no need for stronger hamstrings or glutes. I don't know if that's what you're trying to get at. I don't personally see a need to go in that direction.
Personally, I do deadlifts for general fitness as much as for cycling. I do relatively light weights and high reps. Increasing strength in all the muscles worked by deadlifts is important to me, but I don't have any need for massive strength. In the context of functional strength to pick up the occasional heavy object, shovel wet snow, or turning the cranks on a bicycle, the amount of lower back strength gained through deadlifts is sufficient. The strength gained in the lower back is also proportionate to the strength gained in the other muscle groups targeted by deadlifts.
Obviously, hurting yourself is counterproductive to training or any activity in life, so we're in agreement that proper form is important for anyone doing deadlifts.