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Old 02-02-14 | 11:10 AM
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cyccomute- Having locked up a front wheel on both bicycles and motorcycles I know that endoing isn't the only result of too much front brake force. I agree that a sliding/skidding wheel is not what one wants for control. But, again, the start of a skid is a feedback that a skilled rider understands and reacts to. That i first choose to back of the rear brake to maintain rear steering control works for me and others. The key, as i tried to say previously, is to modulate the front braking force so that the rear does stay on the ground. Monitoring the rear's tendency to skid given a certain amount of rear brake application is one method of deciding how much front brake is "right". I think that the vast majority of riders who have only a front brake actually also have a rear brake, just not a caliper but a foot brake. (Fixed gear riders can slow and/or lock up their rear wheel easily enough). Another thing I don't remember ever hearing is your claim that riders will avoid using their rear brake in fear of a skid. But your circle of riding community is not mine. Just about every rider that i have taught the rear ward weight shift when braking strongly has gotten it. It only takes a few times trying it to understand. By modulating the front brake to keep the rear from skidding is not allowing full stopping force to be used. But the rider is the one who will make that choice, whether they consciencely understand or choose it.

MikeWMass- I agree completely. Having learned how to drive long before the advent of anti lock rakes and having had lots of experience driving close to the limits it took me a while to trust the anti lock brake concept.

I try to limit my posts to three per topic. By then i have found that i don't have much more to add. So thanks for the discussion all. Andy.
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