Agreed with tsl, and in my limited experience with group rides or events of late I have only seen two Orbea bicycles. I would like to ride one, their design and handling reputation are interesting/good. Interesting to note that the frame sets can be purchased on Amazon, from one of their sellers. I read a recent test of the Orca with Dura Ace level components, Gold I think they call it, and it was well received by the testers.

Bill