Like I said. You might as well be speaking Latin, Bub.

Listen. I'm just a regular Schmo who builds and rides bikes for my own enjoyment. I don't ride in any pack, group, team or club. That's because riding my bikes to impress other people is not my schtick. I don't have any patents, trademarks or copyrights registered in my name. So somebody else's stolen intellectual property doesn't keep me awake at night. That's the intellectual property owner's problem. About which I honestly don't care. How to not spend thousands of dollars when I don't really need to? Now that's something I care about a lot!

But you seem like a nice old fellow who knows a thing or two about carbon fiber. So here's my answer to all of your "Have you ever...?" questions in one fell swoop: No. I have never. But I have a guy who is expert in that field that has! His name is Yong. Cycling Yong. If you're ever in Dongguan China, drop in at his factory and say hello. You will be impressed with what you find!