just got around to checking all these posts...appreciate all the input. I have a pair of lobster mitts myself but unfortunately they are just the shell type with no insulation whatsoever. Maybe I will try a layer or two of polypro under these and see what happens. Meanwhile I just tell myself that this -10 F crap won't last long and we can get back to our usual 30 degree range. Hope my @#$!@$$ eyebrows won't freeze off before then!