Originally Posted by mile2424

I understand people's mixed opinions on why would you want to put a logo when they aren't paying you or you aren't sponsored by them. I totally understand this, and I think this can go either way. The main goal of any of my designs is to make sure the bike looks like a legit team bike. I am in no way affiliated with Specialized, but if I were to leave off the S-Works on the down tube, then it would most likely look off and not look like a real design. I understand the logo could be moved or relocated, but a bare down tube usually looks off to me. For something like the secondary RB logo, the only reason for this is because it's a direct homage to one of Vettel's helmets. Of course you could do light blue and orange without any logo's and many people would instantly recognize gulf colors. Same with Martini stripes.