thx for clarifying bhkyte - I wasn't especially referring to you, the clone advocates tend to critisize the brommie users likewise and I just wanted to avoid having two camps fighting in this thread.
One of the old really similar clones would be best - or even just a frame as I plan on swapping quite some parts anyways...
although I haven't seen one for sale yet (plus no idea for how much they sale usually).


But I have to say that the idea of starting with an orio or mezzo for better compatibility for standard parts sounds quite tempting as well - I have to digg into that. What's a realistic weight on those with some parts swapping?