Cool. Thanks for the info. That all makes a lot of sense. I hear many people say they would be much more likely to buy a BF if they sold affordable framesets. A pity and missed opp. i think. I can envision tons of couriers and such wizzing about on their own modded and build up BF's frames, that would be some marketing. But maybe BF simply doesn't want to go that route, not their style/thing. Fair enough.