Originally Posted by
hueyhoolihan
this has been pretty much my experience too.
i'd say, if you are anything like me, you will need to ruin 10-20 tubes before you get it right...

i'm expecting to ruin about five more.
although, i have to admit i was just THAT far (thumb and forefinger 1cm apart) from buying a Var Tire Tool the other day. then chickened out.

i mean, after all, it would have cost me 10 or 15 dollars!!!!

It is never too late to buy a VAR. Best tire tool on the planet. As good as other bead jacks at home and small enough to carry with you. I wouldn't leave home without it. I don't care who knows I can't mount a folding tire by hand. It is not about macho, it is about riding.