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Originally Posted by FBinNY
The interesting thing about this Johns Hopkins study, is that they "discovered" in 1999, things that were standard chaindrive textbook knowledge for about 100 years prior.

What comes next? Germs, and not chilly weather cause colds?

It's not a marvel of original research or insight. They could have saved themselves the time and effort by visiting the library.
Subtle. First you imply that because the press release is old, it can be ignored and then you imply that those eggheads at some fancy college where they only got book larnin' should'a knowd all this stuff to begin with 'cause it was knowd a hunert years ago.

I've read the study. You could run on down to you local liberry and get a copy to read yourself. People couldn't have known what these guys found a hundred years ago because they didn't have the instrumentation to measure what was measured 100 years ago. The study used sophisticated instrumentation to measure heat flows that aren't simple to measure because the magnitude of those flows are extremely small.

They did, by the way, "visit the library". The paper that they published is well documented and peer reviewed. For the uninformed, peer review is where papers are subjected to scrutiny by several learned people in the field of study before the paper is published. If Johns Hopkins is anything like other research facilities, it was probably peer reviewed by people at Johns Hopkins before it was submitted to external peer review prior to publication. And, just in case you think that peer review is a rubber stamp, it is not. Having been through the process many times, peers take their job seriously. The process is brutal and, if something were attempted to be published that has been "known for 100 years", they would have brought it up...in the harshest possible terms. It's not accepted to "rediscover" something.

Now if you don't agree with the Johns Hopkins study, you are free to refute it. If you can find a paper from 100 years ago that states the same information, you can write and publish your own study.

Originally Posted by FBinNY
In all my years of using this quote in a variety of contexts, I've never run into anyone who didn't understand the intent. I don't know why you feel that some seem not to get it, but I'm not going to argue Pope, so I'll grant you that some won't get it.
Oh, I understand your intent. It's just not Pope's intent.
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