Originally Posted by Leisesturm

If I understand you correctly... your 'cubit' measurment.. elbow at nose of saddle to tip of middle finger doesn't reach the bars but only to the stem bolt... that does not sound like a frame that is too small.




It should be pretty obvious that moving your saddle forward will move your elbow forward when you have your elbow at the tip of the saddle. This will shorten the distance to the bars. In any case. It looks, note I said, it looks, like a plumb dropped from the nose of your saddle would go through your bottom bracket. I only have one bike that can do that. It's the one that fits me the best actually. I don't think you need to get your saddle any further forward, And... yes, for a flat-bar situation having the bars a couple of inches further than your cubit distance wouldn't be a deal breaker. Two things though. It looks like your saddle isn't level. It should be. Certainly, if it isn't going to be level, the nose should be up, not down like in your photo. Next, your bars are too low, I think. You may need a stem extender to get them higher because I don't see any spare stack height anywhere. If your seat is higher now than in those photo's I just don't want to think about it. Why don't you get some measuring done and give us some numbers to work with or go to an LBS and have this done right?



Knee's can hurt because of bad gearing choices too. The frame being "too small" is a non-issue because you have a seat-post long enough to put your saddle at a correct height. "Larger" frames raise the handlebars higher off the ground and also move them further away from you. I see where your bars could be higher but they don't seem to need to be further forward. Are you female? This does matter. Women and men of equal height have different length legs and torso and arm lengths are going to be different as well. Most of the "tricks" in use to ball-park fit, are based on men's physical characteristics.

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