killsurfcity you said it yourself that you want a track frame and wish that you could afford one. So why the argument?

I don't care what type of bike you ride just be honest with yourself. You started the thread by saying there is more self expression in the type of bike that you ride - that's offensive - why be a separatist? enjoy all bikes - while you are at it enjoy everything.

I am just stirring things up when i should really be doing some work.