You bring up a very good point , I'm sure most of the poeple on this forum are responsible riders but there are always a few loons out there with the old idea that reflectors and lights make me look like a goon ,worst thing is if a car hits them they scream bloody murder ..there is a guy who rides around my area on one of those pocket bikes at night with no lights,helmet or protective gear on and my wife nearly hit him the other night ,the last thing someone who drives wants is to have to deal with hitting someone .