Originally Posted by ovoleg

I guess I haven't done the charity rides you guys are talking about cause the ones around here are filled with super slow people riding 14mph for 7 hours ride time and 14 hours total time to complete a century. I've never felt unsafe either because the few times I've done them, I did it with a handful of people that I actually knew and we would hammer each other to death and stay away from all the Fred's.

It's pretty much impossible for me to ride away from the field and start soloing or get away with 2-3 people unless everyone in the field is sleeping. Most races I'm riding 1-5 wide with 125 people who may or may not know how to handle a bike that are strong.

Bike racing is much much much more dangerous from my experience to charity rides. Again I don't know any charity ride that has Fred's who cant ride a bike that can hold 20 mph over a relatively hilly 100 mile course.