Originally Posted by jfowler85

I've also spent some time in SF and I would have to say I nearly completely disagree with you that the majority disregard lights and stops, but I do agree with you that it is a problem, and that it is not worth just sweeping under the rug which seems to be a common thing around here. Funny how people cherish living in a relatively safe society until is comes time for them obligate themselves philosophically to the same standard which keeps their society safe.