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Old 04-28-14 | 04:49 AM
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From: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX

Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100

I know that I'm late to this...

Front - 2 o'clock
Rear - halfway between seat and chainstays, ~10 o'clock, because that's the way that I was taught in the 70's.
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