Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the help (except for the one jerk). I have one long sleeve and one short sleeve right now, but I bought the short sleeve Garneau off backcountry.com (great deals by the way) for like 25 bucks and it ended up being more 'relaxed' fitting and improved my aero as much as a bead sheet parachute would, so I'm trying to avoid that problem again. The rapha super light weight already mentioned has my attention, but it is a lot of money to spend on a jersey. The good thing is I really only need one because my girlfriend has a rule that I'm not allowed to come in from a ride until I've stripped down at the door for her to wash my clothes, which is nice. I'm thinking about snagging a specialized SL maybe unless someone can talk me into spending the extra money on something else. When I said i wanted something to last I didn't mean not wear or break in, but something that wouldn't be worth my money like the current Garneau jersey.