Anyway... I am a Clyde that actually loves hill climbs as long as there are no Cat 1/2 skin n bones breaking away. There is nothing worse than just losing it in a group ride on a long hill. For some reason I can really get my legs to work as long as I have some point of pace. I started doing hill repeats a few years ago and was amazed at what that did for my overall perforamnce. I think the steepest grade I have ever encountered on road bike was 18% maybe 20?