thanks for all the suggestion, well i was looking at the sirrus elite but it seems sirrus elite to sirrus comp has adramatic weight difference with the A1 aluminum vs the E5 aluminum, is there a bike similar to the sirrus comp in weight minus the carbon fork as i know that will raise the price and minus the Tiagra components.

ill ask a ocal shop about the drop bar fitting like a flat bar, i have slight lower back problems so im not sure how long term drop bar would pan out but if you say it can be adjusted ill take a look at that.

how does people feel about fuji bikes i was told not as compareable to specialized, how true is that in my price range.