Man, I wish there was a way to test bikes blindfolded to prove most folks can't tell the difference between two similar bikes of different brands. That would put an end to all this nonsense. But then what would we do for online fun?

So Spesh is too arrogant and litigious, Trek asplodes, Giant is embarrassed to put their own name on most of what they make... What is there left to ride? Willier? Maybe, but first you have to ask how to pronounce it. I don't know; it is getting harder and harder to find a bike to buy.