Originally Posted by
CrankyOne
I don't remember saying anything bad about Portland. ??
nah but you definitely suggested that a preference for bikes sold by Rolling Orange and reduced use of helments and lycra is a sign of progress. i disagree. and as mode share in pdx has increased from 2.5% to 6% i've continued to see lots of helment and even --*gasp*-- lycra use. moreover, contrary to the expectations of some, there has been no explosion of interest in dutch city bikes.