Originally Posted by
bmontgomery87
+1 I've been curious to know this for a while.
I actually just picked one up off ebay because i got it really cheap and wanted a beater bike for beer rides. Haven't received it yet, but would like to know if they're crappy welds and what not.
I got the cheap base model one, but the 6061 basically looks like a more affordable leader complete with better cranks.
I'll offer what I know from first hand experience with a number of their frames. None of which were satisfactory.
1. Actual incomplete welds. UGLY to boot.
2. Crooked to the point of visible with naked eye. Bottom bracket 5mm off center to seat tube. Track ends welded in visibly not paralel to one another/tilted causing extreme wheel misalignment. Chain stays leaving the bottom bracket at different vertical angles. Braze ons for racks an bottles severely misaligned.
3. Paint adhesion is the poorest most brittle I've experienced. LARGE drips and runs in paint.
4. Head tube not aligned with seat tube.
5. They flex like a four day over ripe banana in a tub of hot water.
I must be fair though, and acknowledge that their customer service was utter Five Star excellence. No questions asked and free replacements shipped same day. This process was repeated with great courtesy and speed by State numerous times, until I finally gave up.