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Old 10-12-05 | 10:08 PM
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The story is about shooting someone with a firearm. The caliber, intent, age of the boys, or if my dad liked BB guns is smelling around the issue.

To ask a tough question, when is OK to be violent to women?

and here is another:

If we can judge bicyclists clothes, urban riding, equipment and even punctuation and give them advice (we're men, they make us look bad, you should do this...) then how outrageous is young men (we're men, you make us look bad, you should do this....) to shoot somebody.

The real story, men, is it's sometimes acceptable to teach and tolerate violence because we do it. This is a masculine problem, not anything else, the longer we tolerate buddies, co-workers and public figures who beat up women, the longer we are part of the problem.

http://www.mugshots.com/Sport/Jason+Kidd.htm
http://www.mugshots.com/Sport/Mike+Tyson.htm
http://www.mugshots.com/Sport/Joe+Frazier.htm
http://www.mugshots.com/Sport/O.J.+Simpson.htm
http://endabuse.org/celebritywatch/index.php?Fame=N

To summarize, men commit violence, and some of us are ashamed.
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