Of course you are correct Bikelite. Which is why I packed my bike in foam and am flying to Bangkok tomorrow. Thailand and Malaysia have serious sports medicine physicians and clinics. BACH MAI Hospital here in Hanoi has joint problem doctors but this isn't the most sophisticated city for medicine (sure is cheap though - today at HANOI HEART HOSPITAL a treadmill EKG, you know the stress test where they get your heart rate way up for max 13 minutes, was under USD6! Likewise a spirometry, in my case only non-drug comparison version was required, at BACH MAI was similar. A full physical checkup with every basic blood and vital signs test except FOBT at a private hospital in Saigon likewise was a bargain - $50. But right now I'm looking for good not cheap so I am off to slightly expensive but lots of competition Thailand.)