jppe, yes. Was planning to go see what Neels Gap is all about, heard it was the rookie Gap. Thinking of at least the Valley Ride, but prefer to get in enough shape for the 3 Gap. Just need to get used to those fast descents - any advice on good brake pads?

Plus the guy who used to run the now (sadly) defunct Dawsonville Cycling Club told me he'd ride with me, just call. Looking for some others to ride with that won't drop me. Don't know how to plug in and find peeps to ride with that are patient with us +Fiftys getting back into it - not into dealing with the young competitive/impatient crowd anymore.

Another group I'm interested in, as I've heard they are in shape but not bratty about it, is the Cumming-Dahlonega group I always see on Saturday Mornings. They come up past my house like a freight train