I'm speechless... really... wondering out loud why another human being does what they do... smh. Why do some cyclists stop at every stop sign and stoplight they come to? Why do some people hold doors for others? See? Unfathomaable. Might as well wonder why some people return large amounts of money they find. It's not the jerkwad cyclists I wonder about, its the people who get their knickers in a twist about it. And I'll bet money that the o.p. has never actually had the personal satisfaction of seeing some idiot who has run a stale red get smished. Nor would they want to. They only think they do. Post #3 in my opinion nails it. FWIW.

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