Thanks for the suggestions folks. I already have a Pro-Strada, so a Medici is low on my list. I like the other Euro suggestions though and will start keeping my eyes open. One thing that might be an issue is that by the time this group came out, I think other component vendors were starting to produce 8sp groups. If I remember correctly from the reading I've done so far, the America derailleur is your typical 6sp or 7sp SIS type of setup. I might have a little trouble finding a 126mm spaced frame, as many framebuilders were probably switching (or had already switched) to 130mm spacing for stock frames. (Trina, apologies for misspelling your BF handle. )