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Old 07-02-14 | 06:37 PM
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tandempower
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Originally Posted by Machka
Actually, I don't recall expressing an opinion about economic greed, sprawl, etc. etc. etc. in my post.
Why is important to note that you didn't? Are you avoiding responding to that for some reason besides disliking it as a topic? That was my assumption, which is why I told you that economic critique can be irritating to me too. It just is, but it is also necessary if you want to have a conscientious democratic society/economy.

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
What "drives" such people to walk or bicycle to/through the so called sprawl wastelands from their carfree neighborhood if it upsets them so much?
I've explained this in previous posts. It has to do with how spread out destinations are. If you cycle, it can take hours to get around sprawl. If you take a bus, the bus stops every block or two because the blocks are huge, so it can take hours to get across town.

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Would you suggest that the so-called sprawl be bulldozed and made back into farmland and the residents and businesses be forcibly relocated back into the urban core, just so a relative handful of carfree malcontents can listen to the birds chirp and/or take pretty pictures whenever they ride out of said urban core areas?
1) implement subsidized shuttle transportation for employees to workplaces, school bus style, for those who can't or won't take city buses.
2) create parking limits for the zoning of new construction and renovation.
3) Offer tax incentive for converting sprawling parking lots (partially) into usable buildings or green space.
4) Target special tax incentives for reducing parking in areas with the best transit and bike lane access.
5) As traffic grows denser in areas with less transit/bicycle access, create new transit line and bike lanes.
6) goto #4
7) Continue until parity is reached between transportation modes, e.g. driving/cycling/transit = 33%/33%/33% or at least 50%/25%/25%

The 50%/25%/25% target would probably be sufficient to ensure sufficient infrastructure for people to freely choose any of the three transportation modes. If 25%/25% utilization isn't reached for cycling and transit, that probably means the city isn't sufficiently conducive to these forms of transportation and more work needs be done to facilitate them.
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