The worst pair of gloves for bleeding the black dye were the Giro Zero's. Every time I washed them the water would turn black and my palms would be black after a ride. The pittards leather didn't hold up for very long, either. It would shrink and crack, then finally start splitting within a few months. Unfortunate, since they were a very comfortable, no pad glove. By the way, they do also come in a white palm if you want to give them a shot.